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The Rock 108 Morning Show with Brian Marshall · Wed Sep 24, 2025
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Linkin Park with Rock108, 10 After 9, and a little Linkin Park going into this band here is joining us.
Autumn Kings, Jake, Joe, welcome aboard.
Awesome, thanks for having us.
So you guys, I found out a big fans of Linkin Park, right?
Sure are.
You can say that.
You can say that.
What it was about Linkin
Park for you guys?
I think it's the way they weren't afraid to take risks musically and amalgamate different sounds like EDM, pop, rap, metal, all together.
In the early 2000s, that was a very fearless move.
And they still combined all of that with memorable melodies and meaningful lyrics.
So to us, that felt like the perfect storm.
And even if we don't exactly borrow or sound just like Linkin Park, the fact that they had the courage to take those musical risks is something that we always think about when we're making our records.
Was it on your bingo card about a year ago?
Emily joins the band and then they're out there touring.
How did that feel for you guys?
It's crazy because I remember talking about it
like a month before
they
made the announcement.
Man, RIP Chester.
We were
writing music.
That's a hard thing to do.
The day that Chester passed.
Yeah, we were writing that day.
Yeah, it was crazy.
That's like one of the biggest questions.
Yeah, what did you think right?
I like
Emily.
Yeah, I think you know when you're so married to a particular version of Lincoln Park,
and then
you hear anything that's different than that
I think maybe for a lot of people, your first instinct is, ah, I don't
like this as much.
But then when I stepped back and thought about it, it took a lot of balls for Muchinota
who captains the land.
Let's keep the legacy going of Lincoln Park, right?
So that's a tough thing to do.
And the new record slaps
is very, very good.
And she's good, and she's great.
Yeah,
she's great.
She's holding it down,
and
it's a new identity.
Good for them.
A new chapter for
them.
You can tell that
they waited many years, and they thought about it very deliberately.
So it wasn't like a spur of the moment decision.
Jake and Joe from Autumn Kings joining us here on The Rock.
So when you hear new material from Linkin Park and you said you're actively writing at that point, how do you not, I don't know, take the influence from like a Linkin Park and then suddenly it just kind of weaves its way into maybe what you're listening to as you guys are writing.
Yeah, well it's totally it.
In subtle ways it will influence us.
Just like everything that we listen to.
It's almost funny sometimes when you get into the room and you're writing, you're like, oh, I'm like,
channeling something that I just heard two weeks ago and it's coming through like oh that rise against record that appeals
to reason in
2008 this is coming out in this guitar riff that we're writing in Hellbound and it's with an open creative mind a lot of things kind of just seeped their way in in subtle ways and Lincoln Park definitely with the new music was a part
I did see
It was just recent that you heaped a little praise on
Nickelback.
Oh,
big time.
That was recent?
I mean, that's every day.
It's insane.
Well, Nickelback, it's funny.
We were asked a question yesterday.
We were doing a chat with some fans.
Yeah.
And they said, who's your biggest influence to get going in music?
And I answered it as a two part question,
which
is musically it's Metallica.
The riffs were so complicated.
It was so aggressive.
And the teenage angst, you know, sort of
matched really well with Metallica's music.
But Nickelback, in terms of the story, they were Canadian and we grew up in Canada.
They did it the right way.
They didn't fall into the trappings
that a lot of
bands
fall
into, like the drugs and the major depression and then the hiatus and then the band fighting.
They were able to avoid all the pitfalls and still wrote all their own songs that sounded like an arena rock band.
And so not enough good things we could say about Nickelback.
When
did it sour,
though?
What do you think it's sour for
Nickelback, Joe?
You have a good theory on this.
It just became cool to hate them.
Like, there's nothing wrong with Nickelback.
It really isn't.
Yeah, my theory is there's such a versatile band as much as people say they're not, that
if you heard
them on the rock station and you're like, ah, this isn't for me, fine, okay, I'll change it.
Let's turn on the rock stage.
Let's turn on the pop station.
And then you're photographed.
There they are again, photographed.
Okay.
And you're like, what are these guys?
I'm gonna put
on the country station and then you hear rocks and you're like, I hate this band.
Let me find a reason to hate them.
I hate them.
Oh, he's got long
hair that looks like ramen noodles.
Okay, let's make a meme out of
that.
And then Chad gets ripped on it.
They got really big pretty quickly, you know, for a period of time.
And I think it just became trendy like
Joe.
I think
it just became trendy.
It's like, anytime a Nickelback song comes on the air or anywhere, everyone's bobbing their head.
Everyone knows all the lyrics.
Why does everyone know it?
Because they were hit.
And I know you guys are out on the road.
The Autumn Kings are guest to Jake and Joe, but I saw Chad, Sammy Hagar,
And Tommy Lee just put out a video and they're like, what are we doing?
Really?
So what could
that
mean?
Wow, super group perhaps?
Was it Chad and Sammy?
Sammy's involved, Sammy Hagar and
Tommy Lee.
And Tommy Lee.
Oh yeah, they're good buddies.
I
was playing bass.
Wait, I gotta think about it.
Who could we add, you know?
Oh, man.
I
mean, Getty is not doing anything.
Getty, we should get Getty in the next suit.
Getty Lee, best bassist ever.
That's crazy.
Otto
Kings, they're going to be playing a couple of their tracks here coming up.
Here's another Canadian act.
Here's Three Days Grace.
We're just talking off the air a little bit about growing up in Ontario and just literally across the border across the bridge in Windsor, right?
How much Detroit music influence does that?
Translate over into Windsor much or all of that I
would
say massive
yeah all of it
The first concert I ever went to was at a place called the palace where the Detroit Pistons played the NBA team
and
it was AC DC Wow,
yeah, I know his first my first concert is this whole name.
What's a pine knobs on Jack Johnson?
Dude my first was Beach Boys with John Stamos on the drums.
Oh, no
Yeah, but we got so much American influence most of the stations were
American and all the shows that we went to are in the Detroit area So that had a huge influence and then when we started the band We really cut our teeth in the Detroit scene because the demand for live music in that city rock
is
second to none Detroit Rock City.
Yeah, that's incredible
Are you guys
kiss fans
at all?
I
have to be.
Yeah, you need to know Detroit Rock City by heart.
Oh, yeah.
It's one of the
first
rips I ever learned.
Is that right?
I know that.
Oh, yeah, yeah,
big time.
This is awesome, man, of
course.
When you guys are, let's get into the new stuff now.
And Hellbound is really taking off here at Rock 108.
Awesome.
As you guys are putting out this new material and you guys got the record deal, what is the challenge?
What is your goal at that moment as you're writing what ultimately becomes Hellbound?
Yeah, so it's interesting, before we used to think that inspiration came from the sky, like when you feel the itch to write, you sit down and write, and sometimes that does happen, but what we do now is we try to just put in the reps every day like an athlete and cancel out this self-imposed pressure of writing a hit or writing a better song and just showing up every single day and doing it, because when you start off and you don't have a whole team around you,
There's no pressure, you just
write and
you sort of
write to impress yourself.
Now you know that there's a whole team and there's investment being put behind it and there are gonna be big tours and we're gonna be gone for a year and there's a crew.
But what we try to do is just sit there like monks and do the work, do the best possible song that we can do and try to make it creatively different than the song before.
We never like to look at a song that performed well like Sleep When I'm Dead and say, oh let's just try to.
borrow elements of that and make another song so that it goes to radio.
We really don't like to do that.
We want every song to stand on its
own merit.
How much though, I mean, creatively you wanna do that, but how much do you have somebody you're leaning over you're going, hey, hey, sleep when I'm dead was really big.
Right.
Yeah.
You know what, thankfully not at
all.
They really trust us
with our choices.
Yeah,
hopeless records.
We signed with Hopeless and they're an independent label.
And we signed with an indie over a major for a reason, which is,
to not have to give up any creative control.
So we can say in perfect honesty right now, there was not a single whisper or a single word like that of.
You should try this or you should try that.
Our management knows
too.
Shut
it down immediately.
Yeah, we're the hardest critics of ourselves too.
We don't BS ourselves in the studio if it feels like it's on
the level to give to Brian.
That's incredible.
Okay, so I got one thing before we get into Hellbound Acoustic here on Rock108.
The game is called Clumian.
We have three individuals today.
One is living.
Two are deceased, but they had their birthdays today.
So we've got Autumn Kings, Jake, and Joe with us, and you guys are playing it.
We'll start with the first individual, the person who's alive.
56, percussionist, and the co-founder of a metal band that is active today.
We'll start with that.
Yep.
Any ideas?
Yeah.
56.
Yeah.
From
Slipknot.
Yes.
What's his name?
Jim.
Jordison.
Joey Jordison.
No.
Joe, do you
got
a guess?
I'm
very close.
He's on it.
He's on the tip of his tongue.
So let
him roll.
Come
on.
He lived in Jim Root.
No, not Jim Root.
Russ is helping out from the background here.
He lives in Des Moines.
He doesn't.
Yep.
He lives in Des Moines.
It's a think circus.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
Clown.
No, no, he was not on Saturday life
Simpsons voice actor.
Oh Phil Hartman
correct.
Oh
All right, Joe got that one.
All right, you guys got two of them.
Here's the final one deceased director actor puppeteer.
Oh I already got it Jim Henson correct
I'm so glad you're here.
I'm so
glad
you're in this
band.
I
would have screwed.
The Autumn K is going three for three on Clumian here today.
Now I'm hyped.
It's huge.
A new track called Hellbound.
Yes, sir.
Roll acoustic.
Let's do it.
Take it away.
All right.
It's burned out.
It's too loud.
Feeling like I'm Hellbound.
This complicated disposition that I'm in.
Yeah!
Thank
you.
Hellbound Autumn Kings, Rockwood, O.A.
to acoustic and in studio.
Russ brought this up yesterday on our show.
that the recorded version of Hellbound, it ends before the end of the sentence.
Yeah,
that's right.
Kind of
throw you off.
Sleep When I'm Dead, same deal.
What's we give
it, guys?
We
like to
keep
them on their
toes.
Yeah,
we like
to keep them on their toes.
Kind of freak-o-ing.
We forgot
to add it.
Slightly
unsettled.
They have to listen to it again and get
it to the top of Rock When I Wait.
That's amazing.
Jake and Joe from Autumn Kings.
This was the song, not Hellbound, but it was Sleep When I'm Dead.
that introduced us here at Rock What I Wait to you guys.
Tell us a little bit about getting that one out there, not only to radio stations, but they're actually touring on it.
Yeah, well, that one changed everything for us.
It really got us the record deal, the love it radio, the tours.
And the inspiration behind that song was during the pandemic, it was very hard for a band at our level to just sustain and keep going because we hadn't gotten over that.
We haven't made it to the top of the mountain the way bands like Shine Down and Five Finger and bands that we look up to had.
And so we
sort of lost a lot of momentum and had to rebuild it back.
And it was hard.
And there was nothing but will, will to win and will to keep going that brought us through and sleep when I'm dead encapsulates that feeling when there's nobody coming to save you.
You have to just save yourself
and figure it out.
And that's sleep when I'm dead is a testament to that period in our lives.
Would
you play that acoustic
for us?
Yeah, let's do it.
Son of Kicks, Rock
108.
They countin' me out, they spin on my name.
Pasli punam.
Thank
you.
The Autumn Kings, Jake and Joe with us here on The Rock 108 Morning Show.
Let them take a drink and
we'll find
out more.
Sounds like Joe and I have something in common that we both kind of enjoy wrestling.
Uh-oh, that's right.
Yeah, correct.
Who is your favorite wrestler?
Growing up, Jeff Hardy in Ramsterio.
Really?
I
love the High Flyers.
Do you
remember...
Billy Kidman.
Yeah, I love Billy Kidman
dirty animals, baby Billy Kidman did the the the splash I
thought but then Eddie's frog splash is just sure matched.
Yeah,
so how often were you going to the wrestling shows then?
You know not where we're from not that often.
I've been new three Okay, and actually got to see WrestleMania in Detroit though.
No.
Yeah, that was and I'm pretty sure that was the shave your head match
With Donald
Trump?
Yeah.
So I was in the same room.
That's incredible.
But you don't follow it much anymore?
Not anymore, unfortunately.
I mean, there's so much.
I kind of got into NXT when it first came out and then AEW, which is cool.
They're all doing cool stuff.
But my heart's with WWE.
How much does a pro wrestler and a rock star have in common?
I mean, they live life on the road.
And I think, I mean, their work ethic is insane.
And as we always say, you have to have a bit of like...
You got to be a little delusional to do what you
want to do.
You do,
man.
When you look at what they do, you're like, why would they do this?
And it's
just for the love of the game.
It's the same as us.
Joe, you ever given Jake a chair shot?
No, sir.
No,
sir.
He's too tall.
Look at this.
Come on.
That's what it is.
Ramsey versus Andre over here.
So one of the things is we're kind of talking about wrestling.
Sometimes there's a run in.
And one of the things I saw on one of your set list here recently was a run in.
It's a cover that you did.
And I asked off the air if you guys would consider doing it.
And you give me the thumbs up.
Yes, sir.
So the thumbs up.
Please give it a
shot.
Go ahead.
Debut
here.
Debut first time.
Yes For the first time autumn Kings doing their cover of live in la Vita Loka practice never practiced Incredible let's sell it to him autumn Kings new track is called hellbound work in the P1 nation find you guys
find us everywhere autumn Kings calm and all social media's Instagram Facebook as we're most active tiktok to and we answer every comment come say hi we answer every comment every DM We'd like to get to know you guys and share your story with us
Merch
is available, not only through shows, but I saw that you have a merch store also available online.
Yes, sir.
AutumnKings.com.
You hit that merch tab and you'll get right to what you want.
Heck yeah.
AutumnKings, thank you guys for being on The Rock 108 Morning Show today and playing around a little Livin' LaVita Loka.
That's it.
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Livin' Life Loud 2.
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